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well i think ur good at rules Wang so could i give you that burden to write a theard and write all rules u can come up with and ofc i will assist you

ok ill get on it rite away

Well, with the raid quota, how are we going to keep track of that? Is it only guild raids, what if some of us go to other guilds' raids. Myself, I don't just heal for HnH period, I also heal many other guilds as their main healer as well. And the people who like to PvP more may be trying to get stuff like Staff of infinite VI. They may also be trying to get their FOC armor and other things that they can only get through PvP or by spending a ton of money on the bank. I know Deadly left our raid on SL today to go to FOC. This would be making it where players like him are at a disadvantage. Not all of us are pure PvE, we also do PvP a lot. I still have nearly 4k Theme Battle points more to gain till I can get my Staff of Infinite VI, and I'm getting closer to level 65 and haven't gotten it yet. Isn't it enough to have an inactivity limit and not add all these extra requirements on top of it? Why does the guild have to be focused on just one thing?

In this case, if we have raid requirements, then maybe we should have PvP requirements too. I think that if I am required to do raids, then I should also be required to do FOC and Theme Battle.

Once again though, the inactivity limit should be plenty enough.

these are suggestions so dont sound so offended

1) deadly raids with us all the time and he still has time for almost all pvp events.

2) if you choose to party with other guilds and not raid with us that's your prerogative

3) i haven't even stated the number of raids the quota would consist of rather than point blank disagreeing, why not ask how many raids would be required? the number i was thinking of was between 1 and 3 a week. im sorry but if anyone cant do that why are they in a guild?

4) how would a pvp quota help the community in any way shape or form?

5) this topic is not up for debate at the moment as the rules have not been drawn up yet. i will make a new topic as soon as i and the other admins have drawn something up. at that point anyone can discuss disagreements with the rules or post ones we have missed and should be included

first wang im actually going to be at Prides side at this one!
FoC is actually needed for new gear and new gear mean better player and better player means faster raiding and time is everything right?
And i dont have anything against PvP but i think a guild pvp in foc after lots of us hits 60~~ we could actually party up for a FoC pvp "for fun ofc"
But i also thing wang is right cuz we can't have players who JUST PVP we also need players who raid with us so i'd say a 50/50 would be awesome

PvP i think is a must for those who want to have good gear between 35-65 after that there is only raids we can do to get better gear!

i didnt post anything about anyone doing less pvp if you read that somewhere ill edit, but i cant see it. i just SUGGESTED a way to get everyone together and involved by having 1 or 2 mandatory raids together.

yeah and i just suggested the opposite nothing to offend ya! anyway thanks for the suggestion!

hm.. i was thinking of master-apprintice system as a way to guide new players to learn n progress faster..

sort of like Jedi n Sith in Star Wars XD

pick one player... for instance.. me, Berserker class, will pick a lucky young warrior to be trained.

i have kept most of my gears from lvl 1 until now.. some are pimped.. most are not.. but all are complete set

so that apprintice of mine wont have to waste lants, xeons n time to search for the equipments

just helping in quest n grinding till he/she learn the basics n can go on independantly

we already do this tho, most old stuff is kept in the bank for new toons, and we try to help as much as possible. but yeh good idea except for one thing, none of us are high enough lvl to just stop lvling and dedicat all their time to someone else. i think once we got up to 67-70 then yeh it would be a great thing to do.

also this would still be a pretty slow way to get thru the lvl's. the best thing is always to buddy up with a contracting class, like tank and aoe class and single dps and healer sort of thing. but tbh any sort of help from any class at a higher lvl is a good thing. im all for it

true but i like thyps idea

yeh any request or offer for mentoring is a positive thing